Alat za izradu

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Alat za izradu

Post by djomla » 19 Aug 2010, 10:04

Zdravo drugari, pitanjce :)

Slobodno brisite post ako ima negde slican, trazio jesam al ne nadjoh. Elem, zanima me koji je alat sve potreban za izradu jedne gitare.
Dakle osnovno za pocetak sta mi je potrebno i gde mogu da nabavim. Verujem da ce ova tema i drugima biti korisna.

Danke dojčland!

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Re: Alat za izradu

Post by Solomon » 19 Aug 2010, 13:52

Here is a list of tools you need:

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Electric saw, to cut out the body and neck. Watch for the right sawblades, pick the narrow ones, using wide blades for cutting the body will cause a lot of smoke when going round the curves.

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Drill. Used on several occasions. To drill the holes for the tuners of course, but also for sanding the side of the body with a rotating sanding tool.

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Router, Used a lot. Straightening the neck, flattening the head, making the holes for the tuners, making the electronic-compartiment, making the holes for pickups and truss-rod.

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Powerfile. For rounding the back of the neck. A lot faster then a normal file, but to be handled with care, this tool easily "eats" too much wood.

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Sanding machine, for the flat surfaces on body and head. Don't sand the fretboard with this machine!

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Different files and graters, for edges of the body, back of the neck, a smooth transition between body and neck / head and neck. A fine file is used for filing off the fret-ends, and making the nut.

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Measuring tools, the one shown here is only suitable for measuring the peaces of wood before starting to build. use only when it doesn't need to be precise. When it has to be precise, you need a good metal ruler for measuring the neck and drawing it on the wood. A metal ruler is also used for drawing the centreline, the fretdistances on the fretboard, place of the pickup, the holes for the tuners, making the nut, holes for electronics etc. Needless to say, for drawing with accuracy a sharp pencil is also needed.

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A little handsaw with the thinnest blades you can get (for metal). This is used for making the nut, and the grooves for the frets.

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A workbench or workmate. You need something to work on. It's important that you can clamp the guitar to the bench when using the router or saw. The guitar lying around loose, while -for example- straightening the neck with the router, can end in disaster.



Furthermore:

Clamps, at least 6 of them, for glueing the parts together. Make shure you have little pieces of soft wood (furwood, hardboard, plywood) at hand to put between the clamps and you guitar. Never place a clamp directly on the fretboard or neck!

a 1,5 m long, 100% straight piece of wood or iron, this is used for leading the router along the side of the neck.

Hammer, a plastic one, for putting the frets in.

screwdrivers, for screwing bridge, nut, tuners etc. on the guitar.

soldering iron, and wire cutter for connecting pickup and other electronics.

a 30-40 cm long sanding block. To fold the sandpaper around for sanding the fretboard.

lots of sandpaper 40, 80, 120, 400 and 600 grain.

FOR SAFETY:

ear protection, especially when using the router, that thing makes a lot of noise, it can cause hearing damage!

safety goggles, put these on whenever you use some kind of powertool.

dust mask, when using the powerfile or high grain sandpaper. When spraying paint or lacquer this isn't enough, you should wear a mask with excangeable filters then.

rubber or plastic gloves, when handling PU-glue, the stuff sticks to you hands, washing won't help. It takes days to come off.

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Re: Alat za izradu

Post by djomla » 19 Aug 2010, 14:01

Odlično

ali koje modele kod nas kupiti i gde, a da su ok sa cenom i kvalitetom ...

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Re: Alat za izradu

Post by Funkomat » 19 Aug 2010, 14:08

Pa to vec zavisi od toga koliko planiras da ih koristis i sta je tebi ok cena. :)
Ako ces da pravis samo jednu gitaru i trebaju ti samo za to, neke stvari je bolje da pozajmis. Ja npr nisam nigde nasao jeftinu glodalicu mada ti ona verovatno nije toliko ni neophodna.

Idi u uradi sam i slicne velike radnje pa pogledaj cene.

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Re: Alat za izradu

Post by mislim_stvarno » 19 Aug 2010, 14:11

djomla wrote:Odlično

ali koje modele kod nas kupiti i gde, a da su ok sa cenom i kvalitetom ...
uf, to je tek prica za sebe....

mislim, imas neku amatersku verziju (einchel u metrou npr) koje su smesno jeftine, za jednu dve gitare bi posluzile, posle toga nema garancije da li ce trajati, imas neku srednju klasu (tipa black&decker, fino traje, ali nema sve finese profi alata), i naravno profi alate (makita i sl)...

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Re: Alat za izradu

Post by Solomon » 19 Aug 2010, 14:21

einhell crvena serija je profi alat, a plava su hobi alati

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Re: Alat za izradu

Post by mislim_stvarno » 19 Aug 2010, 15:16

Solomon wrote:einhell crvena serija je profi alat, a plava su hobi alati
mislis crvena kao boja samog alata ili...

posto imam crvenu einhell akumulatorsku busilicu iz metroa, i slicnu black&decker, i to je nebo i zemlja po kvalitetu, einhell (bar taj) je smesan, jeftina kineska plasticna igracka u odnosu na b&d koji je 2x skuplji... Jos b&d nije na toliko dobrom glasu kao drugi alati (mislim na inostranstvo)... Isto tako cale je kupio zutu einhell brusilicu koja je jako brzo crkla... :?


Ko zna koliko ima razlicitih alata pod istim ili slicnim imenom (hint apolo aston aster ashton gitare... :) )

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Re: Alat za izradu

Post by Solomon » 19 Aug 2010, 18:26

da crvena boja, zuta je ja mislim najgora serija, ne proizvodi se vise, ima prijatelj ruter i busilicu crvenu, odlicno ga sluze vec 2-3 godine
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Re: Alat za izradu

Post by Funkomat » 19 Aug 2010, 18:28

Jel znas koliko kosta takav ruter?

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Re: Alat za izradu

Post by mislim_stvarno » 19 Aug 2010, 20:34

Prilicno sam siguran da je moj cale kupio ovakav sa prve slike, ali crvene boje (?!), 99% nije ovakav sa donje slike, za nekih par hiljada u metrou... :?

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Re: Alat za izradu

Post by NikolaNis » 23 Aug 2010, 01:02

Ja sam bacio oko na neke Bosch glodalice, ali za sada me i ova moja dobro služi. Ako krene posao onda kupujem polako redom profi alat. Znači moj savet je isti kao i mojih predhodnika, ako radiš jednu ili dve gitare i hobi altat završava stvar, ako planiraš nešto ozbiljnije i na duže staze onda ti treba ozbiljan alat...

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Re: Alat za izradu

Post by Funkomat » 16 Oct 2010, 19:47

Treba da kupim glodalicu pa sam hteo najpre ovde da proverim...
Kontam da uzmem zeleni Bosch. Jel on po vama ok ili predlazete nesto drugo?

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Re: Alat za izradu

Post by xspaceman » 16 Oct 2010, 19:56

Funkomat wrote:Treba da kupim glodalicu pa sam hteo najpre ovde da proverim...
Kontam da uzmem zeleni Bosch. Jel on po vama ok ili predlazete nesto drugo?
jedino ako je surf green! :mrgreen: :hide: shalim se...bosch je bosch! a sta ces da glođeš? neki prjekat je na pomolu??

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Re: Alat za izradu

Post by Funkomat » 16 Oct 2010, 20:37

xspaceman wrote:
Funkomat wrote:Treba da kupim glodalicu pa sam hteo najpre ovde da proverim...
Kontam da uzmem zeleni Bosch. Jel on po vama ok ili predlazete nesto drugo?
jedino ako je surf green! :mrgreen: :hide: shalim se...bosch je bosch! a sta ces da glođeš? neki prjekat je na pomolu??
Surf, naravno. :D


Za sad samo prikupljam alat/materijal. :)

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Re: Alat za izradu

Post by faks » 16 Oct 2010, 21:36

nemojte ove igracke...
makita,bosch,dewalt,hilti.. samo profi-originali. jeste da je skuplje ali trajace i jako se isplati !
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radim sa profi alatom. verujte mi,tako se stedi!

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