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Post by frkadela » 13 Aug 2007, 15:42

maverick_nis wrote:p.s. Koliko kosta DI Box,i cemu sluzi tacno?
Ja sam prije nedjelju dana kupio DI Box, isao sam u Artist u Sarajevo... Platio sam ga 30-tak evra (ne sjecam se tacne cijene, mozda 1-2 evra vise), ali radi posao...

Evo i slicice... Mozda nekad uzmem neki bolji, ali trenutno mi je ovaj odlican... :)
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Post by Fox IV » 13 Aug 2007, 16:03

Uuuu taj je jako dobar. Taj sjajan za kućnu upotrebu a često sam ga viđao i na stejdžovima i to ozbiljnim.

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Post by Kristijan » 18 Aug 2007, 10:57

Khm... može li jedno (možda) glupo pitanje?

Hoće li neki od ovih DI boxova da radi i za bas? Ako ima neki Jedi koji je izučio Force "Uštekavanje i snimanje basa u kućnim (ne)uslovima" molio bih da mi javi.

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Post by KnightOfDoom » 18 Aug 2007, 14:02

Ma moze svaki :)
Ali baci pogled i ovde za svaki slucaj > viewtopic.php?t=915

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Post by Kristijan » 18 Aug 2007, 22:02

I see that the Force is strong with you, young Jedi knight! :D

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Re: DI Box

Post by zolideathmetal » 20 Dec 2007, 13:13

Jos jedno glupo pitanjce :)

Da li neki od ovih Di-Boxova imaju phantom napajanje za mikrofone?
Vidim da neki rade NA fantomsko napajanje, ali pitanje je da li oni sami imaju phantom power?

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Post by Rocket Roll » 20 Dec 2007, 14:02

Neki imaju - obično oni malo skuplji i nenabavljiviji kod nas, kakvi su Radial J48 MK2, ART Phantom... Generalno je takav DI box redak, pošto fantomsko napajanje uglavnom treba mikrofonima a oni obično idu u miksete/ preampe.

Dobro, Zoli, pošto vidim da ćeš nastaviti svoj quest za jeftinim fantomskim napajanjem dok ga ne nađeš, izvoli - ovo ti je najjeftinije fantomsko napajanje na našem tržištu:

->SM Pro Audio XPM1<-

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Košta samo 40 evra, ali ima jedno ograničenje - daje samo 12 volti fantomskog napajanja. To, verovatno, znači da će kondenzator sa njim raditi, ali sa manjom osetljivošću.

To je to što se nezavisnog "fantoma" tiče. Ostalo su pretpojačala i miksete sa "fantomom", a o tome smo pričali na drugom mestu.

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Post by Tiki the Boyler » 21 Dec 2007, 02:10

DI Boxovi ljudi uglavnom služe za live koncerte na velikim binama, gdje nebalansiranu vezu prevode u balansiranu (laički rečeno podižu signal) kako bi se mogao slati na veću daljinu (do FOH miksera i nazad)...
Mogu da posluže i za snimanje, ali im to nije jača strana. To su jako sterilne i beskarakterne sprave (to se od njih i traži - da u najmanjoj mogućoj mjeri utiču na signal) pa je i snimak takav!

Bolje štedite kintu za neko pristojno predpojačalce...

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Post by Fox IV » 22 Dec 2007, 16:50

Mogu samo da kažem da meni Behringer Tube Ultragain radi posao i u jednu i u drugu svrhu a koštao je nekih 70 jura. Dakle radi i kao preramp sa 48V fantoma i kao DI. U svakom slučaju topla preporuka za početak (a i za kasnije).

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Post by Nyarlathotep » 23 Dec 2007, 00:42

meni je ovo zapalo za oko, kad sam razmisljao o DI. doduse, meni je potrebno barem 4 kanala, jer se cesto dzemuje kod mene na gajbi, kad se drugar i ja bodemo u mixer, a ionako koristim stereo izlaz iz gitarskih efekata. kosta 80$, nije uopste puno, ali je zato i 4-kanalni mixer, + DI box. jedan moj drugar, producent, odusevio se kad sam mu pokazao sta sam iscupao.

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A multifunction 4-channel direct injection box and stereo line mixer all in one rackspace.

The DI4v features 4 channels of unbalanced to balanced converters with 10dB pad and earth lift selector provided per channel.

The DI4v is suitable for many applications right out of the box, but the addition of a built in line mixer (Volume and Pan control for each channel and master volume) makes the DI4v value series a unique product solving many problems in the audio field.

If you are a keyboard player, electronic drummer, PA/studio owner, pro musician or a hobby player, the DI4v will find a place in your rack. Imagine running your 4 keyboards or modules on stage directly onto the DI4v and being able to send off balanced signal to the front of house rig while providing your own dedicated monitoring mix . . . all on a single rackmount direct injection box/line mixer!

You will be amazed at how often you'll use the DI4v. SMPro Audio even included a headphone amplifier so you can monitor your own signal.

SMPro Audio DI4v 4-Channel Direct Injection/Line Mixer Specifications:

* AUDIO INPUTS
* Connectors: 1/4" jack
* Type TRS: balanced
* Impedance: 47k Ohms
* Min Sensitivity: -20dB
* Peak input level: +16dB

STEREO LINE MIXER OUTPUTS
* Connectors: RCA Phono
* Impedance: 600Ohms
* Max. output level: +2dB (peak level +18.5 dB)

XLR BALANCED OUTPUTS
* Connectors: XLR
* Type: balanced
* Min. output impedance: 600Ohms
* Max. output level: 0dB (peak level +18.5dB)

DIST, FREQ, S/N RATIO & CROSSTALK
* Frequency response: 20Hz~20kHz, 0dB~-2B
* Distortion : 0.02%
* S/N Ratio: better than 74dB
* Crosstalk rejection: >80dB@1kHz;-20dB input

UNCTION CONTROLS
* Volume per channel: variable
* Pan per channel: variable
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* POWER SUPPLY
* Mains voltages USA/Canada : ~ 120 V AC, 60 Hz
* U.K./Australia: ~ 240 V AC, 50 Hz
* Europe: ~ 230 V AC, 50 Hz
* General export model: ~ 100-120 V AC, ~ 200-240 V AC, 50-60 Hz
* Power consumption: 11.5VA
* Fuse : 100-120 V AC: 630 mA(slow-blow), 200-220 V AC: 315 mA(slow-blow)
* Mains connection: Standard IEC receptacle

PHYSICAL
* Dimension: 1 3/4" (44.5 mm) * 8" (230.6 mm) * 8 1/2" (217 mm)
* Net weight approx. 1.75 kg

SM ProAudio is constantly striving to maintain the highest professional standards. As a result of these efforts, modifications may be made from time to time to existing products without prior notice. Specifications and appearance may differ from those listed or shown.

SMPro Audio DI4v 4-Channel Direct Injection/Line Mixer Features:

* 4 channel DI Box
* 4 channel Mixer
* Each input has a Balanced output
* Earth lift per channel
* 10dB pad per channel
* Volume control per channel
* Pan control per channel
* Master Volume control
* Stereo Line Out
* Headphone Amp
* 110v-220v External power supply
* Size:Half Rack
mada, sta mislite o ovom DI-u? i da li ga je neko vide kod nas. meni zaista su potrebna dva kanala... minimum toliko u najgorem slucaju.

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Converts 2 separate unbalanced 1/4" jack inputs into 2 balanced XLR outputs.

The innovative, active 2-channel Behringer DI20 Ultra DI 2-Channel Active DI Box/Splitter takes the signal directly from an unbalanced high-impedance output like an electric guitar and feeds it directly into a mixing console or recorder. It is ideally suited to augment the traveling gear of musicians (especially guitar/bass players) as well as live/studio/broadcast engineers, installation contractors, and studios/live event engineers. The DI20 converts 2 separate unbalanced 1/4" jack inputs into 2 balanced XLR outputs. There is a 2-channel/link mode for flexible use as mono, 2-channel, or splitter box. In link mode, channel 1 can be split up into 2 balanced XLR connectors plus one unbalanced 1/4" jack connector. Switchable input attenuation in 3 ranges allows input levels of up to +48dBu, while a ground lift switch eliminates typical ground loop problems. Operates on 9V battery or 48V phantom power. Ultracompact rugged housing.

Behringer DI20 Ultra DI 2-Channel Active DI Box/Splitter Features:

* Converts 2 separate unbalanced 1/4" inputs to 2 balanced XLR outputs
* 2-channel/link mode provides flexible usage as a mono, 2-channel, or splitter box
* Switchable input attenuation
* Operates on 9V battery (not included) or 48V phantom power
* Compact, rugged housing

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Post by Nyarlathotep » 23 Dec 2007, 00:48

koji sam kreten... promako mi post o DI20. znaci, ima ga u Artistu u Bosni? Da li ga je neko video i od nas? frkaela, druze, kazes da si zadovoljan? pravi li to chudo nekakav shum? sjebava li signal bilo kako?

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Post by Fox IV » 25 Dec 2007, 03:40

Vido ga ja kod nas u Artistu. A čini mi se da sam krajičkom oka video i u Mitrosu :D

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Re: DI Box

Post by bubula69 » 12 Jan 2008, 01:50

imam pitanjce u vezi s ovim, izvinte ako se već pričalo o tome. naime, dala bih se malo u snimanje na kompu, a nemam baš iskustva s time, dakle.. mogu li umesto DI boxa da koristim hi-fi pretpojačalo? imam neki Profitec TC-400, obično korišćen za povezivanje gramofona s kompom/linijom. evo ga na slici. Image

činč ulazi i izlazi su u pitanju, što nije problem, samo ne kontam da li može da obavlja funkciju DI boxa. od opreme posedujem još i Digitech RP200 i Peavyja sa izlazom za slušalice, mogu li ikako kombinacijom ovih stvari da izbegnem kupovinu DI boxa i u isto vreme ne ***** ništa od hardvera i dobijem fin zvuk?

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Post by Rocket Roll » 12 Jan 2008, 02:29

DigiTech bi trebalo da ima line-out, zar ne? Onda je sve finobajnosjajno. Ali i iz Peaveyjevog izlaza za slušalice možeš, u krajnjoj liniji, u komp.

Ne znam šta je taj Profitec, ali mi nekako zlokobno i pogrešno deluje na slici... Ne bih komplikovao s njim, kada već imaš dva "pravoslavna" rešenja.

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Re: DI Box

Post by bubula69 » 12 Jan 2008, 03:02

digitech ima obican output i isto izlaz za slusalice, pretpostavljam da onda mislis na ovo drugo? ima i neki tanki ulaz koji isto deluje kao da je za obicnu bananu i na kome pise jam-along, cemu on sluzi? hvala na expresnim odgovorima u svakom slucaju.

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