P&K Amps Rocket -> Prvo Trainwreck Pojačalo u Srbiji

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Re: P&K Amps Rocket -> Prvo Trainwreck Pojačalo u Srbiji

Post by Z*Z*Z » 20 Jan 2009, 00:27

Pravi Vox ton, gosn.Buck in da house :) Stavi ti jelkicu od ma..ju.ne da krenu Psychedelic Sounds of 1966 :) I kao sto zakon nalaze, dobrodosao u
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Post by Duane » 20 Jan 2009, 00:42

Z*Z*Z wrote:Pravi Vox ton, gosn.Buck in da house :) Stavi ti jelkicu od ma..ju.ne da krenu Psychedelic Sounds of 1966 :) I kao sto zakon nalaze, dobrodosao u
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a meni niste pozeleli dobrodoslicu u taj vas klub mladih citalaca... dobro dobro...
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Re: P&K Amps Rocket -> Prvo Trainwreck Pojačalo u Srbiji

Post by Z*Z*Z » 20 Jan 2009, 01:21

Duane wrote:
Z*Z*Z wrote:Pravi Vox ton, gosn.Buck in da house :) Stavi ti jelkicu od ma..ju.ne da krenu Psychedelic Sounds of 1966 :) I kao sto zakon nalaze, dobrodosao u
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a meni niste pozeleli dobrodoslicu u taj vas klub mladih citalaca... dobro dobro...
To je zato sto smo ostali uskraceni za demo muff'na :eek4i_2:
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Re: P&K Amps Rocket -> Prvo Trainwreck Pojačalo u Srbiji

Post by Duane » 20 Jan 2009, 01:29

Z*Z*Z wrote:
Duane wrote:
Z*Z*Z wrote:Pravi Vox ton, gosn.Buck in da house :) Stavi ti jelkicu od ma..ju.ne da krenu Psychedelic Sounds of 1966 :) I kao sto zakon nalaze, dobrodosao u
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a meni niste pozeleli dobrodoslicu u taj vas klub mladih citalaca... dobro dobro...
To je zato sto smo ostali uskraceni za demo muff'na :eek4i_2:
it's not my fault... nema se mikrofona... mislim tako ti je to kod nas srblja... jednom imas karticu, jednom mikrofon.. a kad nabavis oboje... hell onda mozes da se selis u toplije krajeve :D
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Re: P&K Amps Rocket -> Prvo Trainwreck Pojačalo u Srbiji

Post by Rocket Roll » 20 Jan 2009, 13:29

Duane wrote:...nema se mikrofona...
Na moju veliku sreću, ja ga imam. Jedan demo sa različitim drajvovima:

->Rocket Dirt<-

00.00 - 00.28 - Klon Kentaur
00.28 - 01.14 - Roger Mayer Spitfire
01.14 - 02.00 - Zeleni SOVTEK (СФРЈ) Muff

Snimak pokazuje da svaka od pedala ima preterani drajv nezgodnog EQa, a to nije ono što sam ja čuo dok sam ih podešavao. Sa Celestionom G12L-35 koji sam imao u H&K "Thirty" nisam imao taj problem - šta čujem, to mikrofon i usnimi. Moraću da malo proučim problematiku ozvučavanja AlNiCo i AlNiCo-voiced zvučnika.

U svakom slučaju sada bolje razumem Pitera Baka i njegov običaj da mikrofone drži odmah pored ušiju.

Coming up next - demo modulacija.
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Re: P&K Amps Rocket -> Prvo Trainwreck Pojačalo u Srbiji

Post by Funkomat » 20 Jan 2009, 13:39

Ajd snimi neki solo sa drajvovima ako ti njie problem. Ovako se slabo sta cuje...
Zapravo me najvise zanima Muff. :)
Clean zvuci super inace.
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Post by cccira » 20 Jan 2009, 13:44

Funkomat wrote:Clean zvuci super inace.
Prosto da se osecas krivim ako upalis neku pedalu pre njega :)
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Post by Rocket Roll » 20 Jan 2009, 14:49

Funkomat wrote:Ajd snimi neki solo sa drajvovima...
Snimiću.
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Re: P&K Amps Rocket -> Prvo Trainwreck Pojačalo u Srbiji

Post by dweezil » 20 Jan 2009, 18:43

ma sve sto ti treba sa tim pojachalom je dobar analog delay.
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Post by Rocket Roll » 20 Jan 2009, 18:57

dweezil wrote:ma sve sto ti treba sa tim pojachalom je dobar analog delay.
Srećom, imam baš pravu stvar. :D

Dakle, test modulacija (i jedna trapava solaža za Funkomata):

->Rocket: Fazevi & Modulacije<-

1) "Normal" (drugi) kanal, drajvovi:
- 00.00 - 01.12, zeleni SOVTEK Muff -> Klon Centaur (Klon se uključuje i isključuje)
- 01.12 - 01.36, Fuzz Factory

2) "Top Boost" (prvi) kanal, "apsolutni clean zvuk":
- 01.36 - 02.30, "Top Boost" kanal, Ross Compressor -> Boss CE-2 Chorus -> AD-3205 delay (palim ih tim redom)

To je taj "američki clean"... Kad američki producenti kažu "clean zvuk električne gitare", oni misle na upotrebu ta tri efekta (kompresor, chorus, delay odnosno reverb).
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Re: P&K Amps Rocket -> Prvo Trainwreck Pojačalo u Srbiji

Post by Z*Z*Z » 20 Jan 2009, 22:08

Lepo zvuci, predlog za amp settings:
Normal - volume po mogucnostima, bass i treble 12 o'clock, cut 9 o'clock
TB - volume po mogucnostima, bass 1-2 clock, treble 10,11 o'clock, cut 9 o'clock
Bez volume na 11 o' clock nemas "otvoren" ton...
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Re: P&K Amps Rocket -> Prvo Trainwreck Pojačalo u Srbiji

Post by Duane » 20 Jan 2009, 22:25

kako bi svirao castles made of sand na tom cleanu :)
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Re: P&K Amps Rocket -> Prvo Trainwreck Pojačalo u Srbiji

Post by Rocket Roll » 21 Jan 2009, 00:06

Z*Z*Z wrote:Bez volume na 11 o' clock nemas "otvoren" ton...
Da, to je to "prokletstvo i blagoslov" non-master volume pojačala - stručnjaci kažu da zvuče bolje od master-volume rešenja (ne znam, nisam ulazio u problematiku), ali nema šanse da se u sobi sviraju na glasnoćama koje zahtevaju.

No, barem je Rocket savršena opcija za non-master volume dizajn - blizak je A klasi i svejedno mu je kolika mu je glasnoća. Ali opet, zvučnik i pretpojačalo traže glasnoću da bi "propevali".

Ipak, ima i tu nekog rešenja - 12AU7 lampa na V1 stišava pojačalo za 40% i dozvoljava pretpojačalu da se više "otvori". Probaću i to, nadam se.
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Re: P&K Amps Rocket -> Prvo Trainwreck Pojačalo u Srbiji

Post by xspaceman » 21 Jan 2009, 00:17

mislim da ti je bolje resenje umesto 12ax7 12ay7...nekako mi 12au7 ima premalo gaina...ali pogledaj ovaj link i tabelu:
http://thetubestore.com/gainfactor.html
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Re: P&K Amps Rocket -> Prvo Trainwreck Pojačalo u Srbiji

Post by dweezil » 21 Jan 2009, 00:21

pa i 12AY7 su sa manje gaina i onako otvoreniji sound sa vishe headrooma ako se tako moze reci, i imaju neki specifichan crunch.
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